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  Topic: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
RobbRoss

Replies: 7
Views: 66

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:05 pm   Subject: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
For the all-important romance part, the logline (or at least the beat sheet) can say more about the main characters and the personal conflict. For example, he's hesitant to date again or fall in love ...
  Topic: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
RobbRoss

Replies: 7
Views: 66

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:37 am   Subject: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
For craft, the purpose of a logline (and then the beat sheet) is to nail the fundamentals of the story and to check the story's appeal before spending months writing the whole thing. So it's worth it ...
  Topic: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
RobbRoss

Replies: 7
Views: 66

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:02 am   Subject: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
I should mention this is a romance novel.

Yes!

The new logline sounds good, for a romance novel. Not that I'm familiar with them!

Is there something about the victims or killer's MO that add ...
  Topic: Longline help
RobbRoss

Replies: 4
Views: 30

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:20 am   Subject: Longline help
There's also a question of tone or non-STC genre. Do you see this as a drama or comedy or what?

Here's a comedy version:

A gullible entrepreneur finally meets The One- and pays more and more mo ...
  Topic: Longline help
RobbRoss

Replies: 4
Views: 30

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:11 am   Subject: Longline help
Now that I have a few more minutes...

It sounds like the suing part happens near the end of the story. Tell us more about why he goes to a psychic, if we should know there's a scam or just a questi ...
  Topic: Dark Mirror (Sci-fi)
RobbRoss

Replies: 3
Views: 34

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:05 am   Subject: Dark Mirror (Sci-fi)
I read everything and don't fully understand it. The main concern from the beat sheet is apparent in the logline so let's go back to Square One.

The concern is that there are two stories at play i ...
  Topic: Longline help
RobbRoss

Replies: 4
Views: 30

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:37 am   Subject: Longline help
Welcome!

Next take, aim to tell us what happens in most of the story. This first one covers a few seconds of filing legal documents.
  Topic: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
RobbRoss

Replies: 7
Views: 66

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:08 am   Subject: Burden of Proof - Buddy Love
Welcome, Samantha!

Good start. Is this intended for cable, like on Lifetime?

Going forward...

When a small town beat cop

Is there something more to say about her? Is there extra irony due ...
  Topic: Midpoint False Victory is a Defeat?
RobbRoss

Replies: 5
Views: 58

PostForum: Save the Cat   Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:12 am   Subject: Midpoint False Victory is a Defeat?
Along the lines of James, it sounds muddled. With a False Victory in this kind of story, the protag is a little closer to the objective. Here, there's a partial victory with the protag no longer wante ...
  Topic: story structure - are the STC beats for the audience?
RobbRoss

Replies: 3
Views: 70

PostForum: Save the Cat   Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:23 am   Subject: story structure - are the STC beats for the audience?
The beats and the story's chronology are two different things. The beats were an observation of Blake's, not an invention (he came up with catchy phrases, like Fun 'n Games), so they're for the sake o ...
  Topic: What Is The Order of Theme State & Set Up
RobbRoss

Replies: 3
Views: 42

PostForum: Save the Cat   Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:58 pm   Subject: What Is The Order of Theme State & Set Up
I forgot to say, it could also depend on the particular writer. However you see it best!
  Topic: What Is The Order of Theme State & Set Up
RobbRoss

Replies: 3
Views: 42

PostForum: Save the Cat   Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:38 pm   Subject: What Is The Order of Theme State & Set Up
Welcome!

The Setup goes from page 1 to 10ish (with the Catalyst following). Theme Stated is most often found in the Setup.

In Blake's own GTTM, some movies have a different order of the early b ...
  Topic: Mutual Men DWAP
RobbRoss

Replies: 15
Views: 152

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:54 am   Subject: Mutual Men DWAP
Another example: Make it more like JP. Alien animals (not human-like) in a big park. No duo. Perhaps the virus can still be a part of it.

Another: Back to the humanoid aliens, they live on an isla ...
  Topic: Mutual Men DWAP
RobbRoss

Replies: 15
Views: 152

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:19 am   Subject: Mutual Men DWAP
Isn't District 9 a mash of several hooks?
Aliens stranded on a planet, Human/Alien duo, Get a cure

The first is the hook. The appeal of the story starts with the stranded/apartheid angle.

Yes ...
  Topic: Mutual Men DWAP
RobbRoss

Replies: 15
Views: 152

PostForum: Loglines & Beat Sheets   Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:37 am   Subject: Mutual Men DWAP
Last question, when you create a logline, are you basing it off reality? Or what would normally happen in the setting of your story?

Story.

You say that rescued aliens wont end up in a zoo ever ...
 
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