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mike72688 Tiger

Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 100 Location: Hollywood, FL
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: Using lines from other movies in your screenplay |
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How do you feel about using lines from other movies in your screenplay?
As a father of young kids, I watch quite a few kids’ films. One in particular sticks out in my mind, Chicken Little. In this film the writers use quite a few lines from other movies such as "You had me at hello" (Jerry Maguire) or some similar phrase with one word changed from the original line. I know what I'm referring to mainly happens in comedies.
My original feeling on this was that it's just lazy writing. I actually sometimes feel disdain toward the writers.
However, as a wannabe comedy writer who has sworn never to do this, I find myself coming up with these borrowed lines. Not that I would overdo it, like Chicken Little, or even feel like I wanted to use them, but just that they keep coming up in my mind as I write.
I guess it’s okay with Hollywood (but to what extent?) Will I give in? Or change how I feel about it? I don't know, but I would like to know how you feel about it.
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quade Liger

Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 1765 Location: South of the 605
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I think it depends on the context.
There is a difference between quoting a line for meaningful, satirical or obligatory purposes and being a no talent hack.
If, in the movie Battleship, there occurs the line, "You sunk my battleship!" it's not stealing from the old TV commercial. In fact, it's probably the only obligatory line in entire script.
If, in Toy Story 4, Woody goes into a longwinded attempt to convince Jessie to come with him on some grand adventure and she says, "You had me at 'howdy'." that's also not stealing. It's a nice bit of character homage/satire.
If, on the other hand, in any movie somebody says, "I'm getting too old for this; shit, crap, poop or excrement" then we can safely assume the writer is, in fact, a hack.
If you can take a cliche line and turn it on its head by making the end meaning something unique and unexpected, I have no problem with that and especially if it's well done.
Only you can really decide what you want to be, but I think if you, the writer, realize you're simply tracing over somebody else's work, I really don't know how you can call yourself a writer.
That said, I see it in films and television all the time. It also makes me think bad thoughts about the writer.
Then again, he has at least a screen credit, WGAw minimums and royalty checks arriving in the mail.
So, what the F do I know?
I don't know, maybe I just don't get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KoKWf6pLs8
http://gointothestory.blcklst.com/2009/11/definitive-list-of-cliched-dialogue.html
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Mike Rinaldi Battle Cat

Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 3885 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| quade wrote: | | There is a difference between quoting a line for meaningful, satirical or obligatory purposes and being a no talent hack. |
I just wrote a scene in which Nancy Pelosi quotes Tom Cruise's Frank T.J. Mackey character in Magnolia.
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quade Liger

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Mike Rinaldi Battle Cat

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Barely. I thought the scene worked remarkably well.
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mike72688 Tiger

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Crusader Cat Bengal Tiger

Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 246
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Here's one I think the list forgot: "You can't do that, it's suicide!"
This brings me back to a script I worked on recently where the line I was planning to write was "I don't give a sh*t" but then I though to my self, I can be more creative than that. The end result was how shall we say...unique.
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Rachel T. Ocelot
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 1912 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| quade wrote: | | If, on the other hand, in any movie somebody says, "I'm getting too old for this; shit, crap, poop or excrement" then we can safely assume the writer is, in fact, a hack. |
Unles the writer's name is William Goldman, the movie is Maverick, and the actor speaking the line is an uncredited Danny Glover. 
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quade Liger

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Rachel T. wrote: | | quade wrote: | | If, on the other hand, in any movie somebody says, "I'm getting too old for this; shit, crap, poop or excrement" then we can safely assume the writer is, in fact, a hack. |
Unles the writer's name is William Goldman, the movie is Maverick, and the actor speaking the line is an uncredited Danny Glover.  |
Well, yes, there always has to be an original author somewhere. Sometimes, however, it's pretty difficult determining exactly who that is.
My big list of questionably sourced quotations has this gem in it;
| Quote: | | "The first man to compare the cheeks of a young woman to a rose was obviously a poet; the first to repeat it was possibly an idiot." -- Salvador Dali |
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